Wolves return to Europe: what to do about them is a people problem – podcast

Podcast about wolves returning in Europe and the livestock industry (includes extensive pastoralism) getting anxious and feeding right-wing populist clownery.

Reminder to the clowns: there's no "livelihood" on a dead planet. Biodiversity, the health the biosphere, comes before business. Unfortunately, the podcast hosts don't understand that, so enjoy this dose of "conservation centrism".