CAVOK

Indeed, I'm all for free markets as long as there's a level playing field.

There is no "cloud", just someone else's computer.

It is not migration that is associated with crime, it is racist people who associate migrants with crime IF they have darker skin. Nobody complains about the millions of migrants coming from southern or eastern Europe. Unless, of course, they are Roma.

Migrant areas have a higher crime rate. If you're right wing you blame it on skin colour or culture. If you're left wing you blame it on socioeconomic factors. Take your pick. The fact remains.

And this is obviously unfair and untrue and a media effect, because every crime committed by a darker-skinned migrant has been reported literally around the world. While local crimes stay where migrant crimes belong, on the local news site. So it’s nonsense to claim that it’s not being talked about; in fact, it’s constantly being exaggerated and used by the media and politicians to incite hatred against dark-skinned people.

I'm sure right wing media love to sell the idea of "bad migrants". But again, there is a problem in areas with a high migrant population that hasn't been discussed until very recently. The very idea of pointing out that certain groups are over-represented when it comes to certain crimes was seen as racist not too long ago. How can you address a problem you won't even acknowledge exists?

Speaking of homophobia: Until 1994, people in Germany could go to prison for homosexuality and after that it took another 23 years until 2017 to rehabilitate those convicted under this law. And racist Germans still didn’t like it. And of course they want to deny any help to homosexual immigrants from predominantly dark-skinned countries. In fact, they want to make homosexuality (not to mention trans people) illegal again, like Putin is doing.

Obviously horrifying, but there's a reason why gay people leave the middle east and come to the west. We're far from perfect, but orders of magnitude better than others. Compare the number of people in Germany and Syria/Turkey/Palestine (or pretty much any country in ME) who want to make homosexuality/trans illegal and then tell me that it's Germany that's the problem.

Our culture is deeply misogynistic and those who suffer the most from this are women from countries with Islamic cultures who choose to follow their culture’s dress codes. And every time some racist Europeans come up with a new idea about how to “fight” migrants’ misogyny, what they are really presenting is just another way to make these women’s lives harder than they already are.

Do you really think women from Islamic cultures have it worse in the west? I don't agree with burka-bans or that sort of nonsense, except maybe for minors, but I have a hard time believing that the west is worse for women than Islamic countries in the middle east or northern africa are.

Every Palestinian has very good political reasons to hate Israel. The fact that we call this anti-Semitism, even though Jews, Christians and Muslims have lived together in peace in the Middle East for over a thousand years, is just a pathetic attempt to clear ourselves of the murder of millions of Jews. Equating rejection of Israeli policies with anti-Semitism while supporting every crime by the State of Israel with money, weapons and diplomacy is truly outrageous.

And it becomes really disgusting, really anti-Semitic when we actually go so far as to label Jewish people who oppose Israeli policies as anti-Semitic and exclude them from social discourse.

It is therefore impossible for a naive media consumer in Germany to ever see a Jew vehemently defending the Palestinians. This is how anti-Semitism is promoted.

Hating and or disagreeing with the Israeli government(s) isn't antisemitism, and I can think of several people with a justified hate for it. That's not the same as hating jews. There was a study done recently that pointed out that the biggest risk factor for antisemitism is ethnicity.

I do agree that the Israeli government would like to label any criticism against them as antisemitism, which is just silly.

And you’re celebrating your own racism here, while pretending to not being racist at all. Like whole of Europe does.

Ad hominem. How charming.

Is there such a thing as appeasing the far right? The tories in the UK lurched to the right out of fear of ukip, and that hasn't really worked. Why would a UK "patriot" vote for the racist-light tories when they can vote ukip?

Same in Sweden with M and SD. M turned more right wing in immigration matters to combat SD, which didn't help. SD is bigger than ever.

I honestly don't think most people mind migration, what they do mind is the crime associated with it, unfairly or not, and the unwillingness to call it out.

That and the rampant homophobia, misogyny and antisemitism that comes with some migrants. Not that we don't have our own idiots here already.

Currently testing it. 20 peers. 1.5GB. Takes about 20 min.

Everything bad isn't Russia. Exploiting bad things to benefit from it is probably Russia.

We know Russia influenced brexit, that they own LePen and that they fund various far right groups in Europe. They're probably trying to exploit this too.

People already assume that it is lower quality.

Ever notice how there are no cookie popup on sites like Wikipedia? Funny how you don't need it unless you're being a total dick with the users data.

Did everyone decide to copy Trumps playbook? Can we have the adults back in the room please?

Why not just answer the question?

It was. I must have mixed the regions. My bad.

Yeah, it's not popular but it's the truth.

I don't mind taxing the rich more, but that doesn't solve the problem as you say.

Good. Even if you think migration is s problem you should be thinking twice about giving up your own right to privacy.

The crazy right in the UK seems to be applauding a proposed withdrawal from the ECJ and the weakening of human rights there. Just to be clear, I don't think there are any serious politicians in the UK wanting to withdraw, but some crazy ones, and some political commentators.

Very weird. Started with Slackware back in 97 or so. Still not a femboy and no desire to be one.

Maybe if I switched to arch?

Sorry, should have checked the source better.

I am doing something. I still feel like I've brought a broom to an earthquake.

If my country stopped using fossils today. I mean not using any at all ever again, that reduction would be wiped out by the increase in China in less than two weeks.

And this is not to criticise China. We have a much higher standard of living, so I fully expect them to want to catch up.

Brexit

To be fair to the French, they do try to stop the boats. For example: https://www.thelocal.fr/20230902/tighter-french-coast-patrols-in-place-to-stop-channel-migrants

However what went missing after Brexit was the Dublin convention where migrants could be turned back to the first EU country they entered, in this case France.

I think the government tried to negotiate a returns agreement with the french who basically just said "Non!" and that was it. There is a deal where the UK pays France to patrol their coastline and stop migrants however. I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong about this last part.

Weird. I mean it's all a cost benefit analysis. On the cost side you have a few common but mild side effects and a very small number of more severe but still harmless side effects.

On the benefit side you have not having a child to visit in the cemetery.

To me that wasn't hard.

That's sad. What was the reason?