Skip Navigation

InitialsDiceBearhttps://github.com/dicebear/dicebearhttps://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/„Initials” (https://github.com/dicebear/dicebear) by „DiceBear”, licensed under „CC0 1.0” (https://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/)D
帖子
35
评论
202
加入于
2 yr. ago

  • I just want to say that I agree with the sentiment and want to point out that a leader is (at least from the way you framed it) just a conduit for the beliefs and goals of the group.

    That’s why if the leader doesn’t align enough with what the group believes then over time they eventually get ignored and attentions shifts over to someone else that better represents the groups beliefs.

    I believe that that is one way of organizing a group however I also think that we have the technology to circumvent even the need for leadership since the benefit of a leader comes from them being an outward expression of the group’s values that everyone can coordinate with, which can be replaced with specific communication technologies.

  • Thanks for your response. Also I sort of didn’t separate the idea of hierarchy and authoritarianism on purpose because I think it is more about the structure of how decisions get made that is important.

    If in most cases an individual isn’t making certain decisions and instead those decisions are being handled by others then people aren’t going to have the capacity to make those kinds of decisions themselves.

    And with the kinds of hierarchy that we see in our daily lives are stifling our ability to make the decisions that would also be removed under an authoritarian political system.

    So it’s more about making it more familiar rather than the actual systems that we have now being completely authoritarian already.

  • You are bringing up many good points.

    I agree that if decisions that benefited the public were being made under our current system then less people would be in favor of “strong leaders”.

    I also agree that people don’t look at the authoritative systems in their lives in a good light most of the time.

    The thing is that you don’t have to like a system to be able to accept it. Just having repeated exposure makes you more willing to go along with stuff you might usually be opposed to.

    Secondly as the saying goes “with great power comes great responsibility” and right now we are concentrating power in the hands of these leaders so people believe that it is up to these individuals to fix our problems for us because they are responsible for us (which include them making the right decisions).

    Edit: specifically they believe that as individuals they don’t have the power to affect the world therefore they are putting the responsibility in the hands of the people that do have that power which is the only way they have been taught they can affect the world.

  • I could argue with you on this for sometime but I’m not going to because that isn’t the point I’m making here.

    To repeat myself

    I am saying that using that kind of system to run a business plants the seeds that make people ok with living in an authoritarian world.

    You aren’t actually refuting my point. You are just saying that it is impossible to not have an authority.

  • To set something straight when I use the term “authoritarian” I’m using it in the more broad sense to talk about obeying an authority which would then include the boss-worker relationship.

    Secondly I never said that the system doesn’t work, have any benefit, or would be better off if there wasn’t a boss (even though I do believe the last one) but I am saying that using that kind of system to run a business plants the seeds that make people ok with living in an authoritarian world.

    Also thats the same argument with how people say that living under a benevolent dictator would be more efficient than democracy.

    I mean yeah maybe (I’d even say it’s debatable) but that’s not a kind of system that we want.

  • As an extra tidbit the link I put in the post shows that the USA and Australia are the only place where people who are centrist are more likely to accept authoritarianism than both left and right leaning voters.

    Make of that what you will.

  • I just noticed you are new to Lemmy. Welcome 😊.

    Edit: Also I haven’t read those before so I’ll check them out thx.

  • No one from hexbear has commented on this thread yet.

  • No it’s not doing anything about injustice that is making the world as fucked up as it is today. And that isn’t happening because we are being disempowered.

  • That's unfortunate.

  • Don't you guys have an admin chat group. Or at least you guys would have some way of keeping in touch since this has happened before.

  • Yeah this admin is only 1 month old. So it does seem likely that they weren't around for the last outrage.

  • The part that annoys me is that this was done silently even though last time they said they would ask their users. Hopefully it was just an admin that didn't get the last memo.

    Edit: the community -> their users

  • Interesting take. I wish they expanded on what we needed to do to make those problems easier for us to solve.

  • Anything you are particularly proud of?

  • Do you have a link to a specific post that you think shows this well?

  • Why do you think step 4 will happen?

  • This is ai generated.

  • You know if you want to do something more effective than just putting copyright at the end of your comments you could try creating an adversarial suffix using this technique. It makes any LLM reading your comment begin its response with any specific output you specify (such as outing itself as a language model or calling itself a chicken).

    It gives you the code necessary to be able to create it.

    There are also other data poisoning techniques you could use just to make your data worthless to the AI but this is the one I thought would be the most funny if any LLMs were lurking on lemmy (I have already seen a few).