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FourPacketsOfPeanuts

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  • Is there any non-zero possibility Musk was not doing a Hitler Salute?

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  • As with how Nazism worked in Germany, I think a large amount of power and influence is happy to go along with whichever way the winds blowing but are not as committed to certain ideologies as much as the demogogues and fanatics. Hitler hid the final solution from the German populace, even when treating Jewish people like shit was a fairly normalised thing to do. That's because even amongst the population of German 'nazis', many believed in the superiority of WASPs, would turn a blind eye to a Jewish person being beaten and robbed, but would balk at women and children being systematically exterminated on just a human level. Many "nazi" civilians were horrified and ashamed when the extermination camps came to light, even if they accepted concentration (prison) camps via 'out of sight out of mind'.

    I think it's far more likely Trump and co will get into a situation where "natural" or mob "justice" does as much as they care to do in that regard. That is, if predominantly black areas of a city have high crime and murders "screw them that's their fault". If that leads to inequality and shorter lives "screw them that's their fault". If illegal migrants get turned back at the border and die in the desert "screw them that's their fault". If trans people suffer trying to fit into society "screw them they're the ones who want to act different". And so on.

    I think it'll absolutely result in suffering and death. But run an actual extermination camp in the 21st century? Well a) it wouldn't be a secret at all b) for all its blagging America still very much needs its trading partners in Europe who would be horrified and c) a good chunk of maga would be horrified (some wouldn't but a whole load would). As much as it's fashionable to cast them all as brainrot sycophants, this isn't quite true in reality..

    I think Trump fascism is about power and about WASP culture prestige and superiority, but I think money counts for far more than ethnic ideology. By all accounts Maga has never had an issue with the EB-5 visa program (aka "buying a green card"). For about a million dollars anyone in the world can become a US citizen as long as they create 10 or more American jobs with their investment. Most of these visas go to Chinese immigrants, but applications are also accepted from Mexico, Vietnam, India, Nigeria etc. Last time he was in office Trump extended the program.

    It's all about power (according to them). If you've got money and you tow the line you're fine irrespective of ethnicity. If you're the "right kind" (white kind) of poor you may get help. Everyone else will find any kind of help very hard to come by even as their neighborhood becomes more lawless and lethal.

  • Is there any non-zero possibility Musk was not doing a Hitler Salute?

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  • I think it's a hair worth splitting because I find it very unlikely that he actually subscribes to the goals that the Germany Nazi party had. And I think he relies on this in order to cultivate the 'owning the libs' narrative he keeps with his supporters and acolytes. He's fascist (and dangerous) and mischaracterising him plays into his hands to be honest..

  • Is there any non-zero possibility Musk was not doing a Hitler Salute?

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  • I don't think they are nazis, I think they are fascists. And I don't think they even think of themselves as fascists, I think they just think power sets the rules and that a lot of people on the left's attempts at 'fairness' are dumb, and (they think) 'well if you want to call that 'fascism' then you're an overreacting bitter delusional leftie'

    Or something like that

    I suspect he did it to take the piss. And to signal to elements of the right / far right that they should breathe a little more freely

    Same way his government department is "doge". Same way he named Tesla's products "S.E.X.Y". Many many things he does are bait.

    But do I think musk stands for what the Nazis did? No. And I think he, and his type, enjoy thinking it's "ridiculous" that anyone thinks that. "Obviously" he doesn't want to gas the Jews. "Obviously" he doesn't think all black people should be lynched.

    But I do think he thinks it's ok trans people are made to fear. That sub cultures are made to feel unwelcome. That non-'wasp' lives are ruined whenever convenient. That checks and balances in government are as changeable as the furniture.

    I think he thinks industry should serve a grand national vision.

    I don't think he gives a shit what that vision is as long as it involves him getting even more stupid wealthy

    So this pretty much sums up fascism. He's a fascist not a nazi..

  • Why did (what is now) Canadian territory not get caught up in the American war of independence? It was all British, right?

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  • Things I've learnt:

    • the American continental army tried to take Quebec early in the war but were unsuccessful
    • inhabitants of British Canadian territory did not have the same sentiment towards Independence as in the 13 American colonies, it was far more sparsely populated, lived in closer association with indigenous people, and was not economically large enough to consider independence
    • after the war, many British loyalists left America and settled in Canada causing the cultures to diverge even more
    • Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, Michigan, Wisconsin and other bits all used to be part of British Québec
    • America attempted to claim all the above plus canadian Quebec in the Paris peace talks after the war
    • in the end the British surrendered only the above territories and kept modern day Québec with the border becoming more or less the modern US-Canadian one
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    Does the US really have no instruments in case a newly elected president immediatelly and openly exposes he's a nazi?

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  • They mean 'fascist'. Fascists are not automatically anti-semitic.

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    Does the US really have no instruments in case a newly elected president immediatelly and openly exposes he's a nazi?

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  • When a population give a party control of the senate, congress and the presidency that's the public disabling a lot of checks and balances..

  • why can't there be a soda dispenser for energy drinks?

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  • they've successfully bamboozled the public into believing that a Monster or a Red Bull or whatever is "worth" 4-6x more per ounce than a normal soda

    Christ is this actually true? I've never had them...

    God people are stupid

  • How do I respond if a girl I know keeps talking how another girl is into her, obsessed with her, etc.?

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  • My bro, she knows

  • Once Upon a Time in Hollywood is a movie about extreme actions that the author wishes took place to circumvent a massacre. Is there a Once Upon a Time... that you wish would happen today?

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  • Id like to see a sort of Inglorious Basterds meets Quantum Leap meets Munich where a team go back in time and foil Dunblaine (UK).. Sandy Hook.. Uvalde.. Not even school shootings per se.. I'd like to see a team rush in and save kids at Aberfan with seconds to spare. Crushes my heart every time..

  • What is a “qwar”?

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  • It could be a stroke keyboard typo for "twat" (assuming they missing hitting the initial T)

  • Why did (what is now) Canadian territory not get caught up in the American war of independence? It was all British, right?

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  • I meant, at the time, it was a British colony

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    Is it normal for a man to last 10 mins max?

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  • When you find someone else hot and you're not jacking to porn it's a miracle any man lasts more than a minute. With a bit of experience you can pace yourself and last longer. It would take deliberate thought to last, say, 20 mins. Many men couldn't do direct stimulation for that long. So it's probably worth talking about how to pace things, switch things up, have quickies and then other times longer times.

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    What is it with Russia and Mordor?

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  • The natural state of human society is fear and oppression, it's been that way for millennia (and further). Rather than Russia being the exception, it's more a wonder, a miracle, that the West ever managed to cultivate democracy, liberalism and reduction in corruption in the first place. Not that it's perfect, far from it, and in fact it's backsliding at the moment, but holding power to account, making it follow the law, is a thoroughly European thing as far as history goes. A tradition that Russia only just skirts the edges of.

  • What are people never ever ready for?

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  • Do you actually feel conviction behind the claims and arguments, or is it more performative?

    Yes. I think what happens in many difficult topics is people know how they feel but have never really thought through the detail. And because of that they backfill with black and white thinking that I think is bad for several reasons.

    I) often even though I agree on the central issue, the black and white thinking contains overreactions that I disagree with that in themselves cause other problems. So I see value in developing an emotional black and white view into a nuanced dark grey / off-white view.

    ii) black and white thinking leaves us ill equipped to understand others or find compromises

    iii) although we all do it, relying on strong emotional convictions is fine for day to day life but leaves us out of practice articulating exactly why we think things should be a certain way and therefore vulnerable to articulate bad actors

    I would never take a contrary view just to be annoying. And I generally only do it on moral issues, not matters of strong consensus that would veer into conspiracy. (E.g. practising reciting the evidence for why we understand the Holocaust is real is a useful historical skill but not the kind of thing I'm talking about)

  • What are people never ever ready for?

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  • I enjoy 'free' debate where I can be the devil's advocate for unpopular opinions. Talk like this is more or less banned on Reddit. Lemmy is a much freer. I think the are sensible boundaries on certain topics where debate must not turn into advocacy. This takes nuance and good sense though. Completely dead on Reddit, still alive here. So carry on..

  • What problems would absolute free speech have?

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  • There are certain materials such as CSAM that people are not totally immune to. Most people will always find it repugnant, a minority will always be drawn to it. But there is a portion in the middle who do not ever think of it only because they are not exposed to it. Unrestrained sharing of it normalises it and the behaviours that come with it. There are some parallels with addictive drugs. Constraints on free speech are akin to banning cigarette advertising or making heroin illegal. Yes, in principle, everyone should be able to manage themselves well enough that anyone can take whatever they want. In reality, we democratically decide society is just healthier for everyone if certain things have constraints.

  • Give me some of your hardest riddles? (with solutions in spoilers)

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  • Thanks. Yes, I'm managing to absorb it now.

    Though the hardest part is getting an intuition about why the "algorithm 1" "algorithm 2" thinking happens at all when they's a group of 100 people and everyone can see at least 99 blue eyed people. I get the induction, but why does anyone think 'well algorithm 1 people would leave first night' when there obviously can't be anyone in this group. The only immediate question on everyone's mind is "are there 99 blue eyed people (what I see) or 100 (me included)?"

  • Are the 'doors' on the ISS locked?

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  • Brilliant, thanks :)

  • Give me some of your hardest riddles? (with solutions in spoilers)

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  • Spoiler >!test!<

    Edit: nope

  • Give me some of your hardest riddles? (with solutions in spoilers)

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  • Same way it expands to two: When there are three blue eyes, then each of them guesses they might have brown or something and there could be only two blue on the island, in which case as described those two would have left on the second night.

    I don't think that's right.

    Let's try it out:

    Basic case: 1 brown, 1 blue. Day 1. Guru says I see someone with blue eyes, blue eye person immediately leaves. End

    Next: 2 brown, 2 blue.Day 1; Guru speaks. It doesn't help anyone immediately because everyone can see a blue eyed person, so no one leaves first night.Day 2; The next night, everyone knows this, that everyone else can see a blue eyed person. Which tells the blue eyed people that their eyes are not brown. (They now know no-one is looking at all brown eyes). So the 2 blue eyed people who now realise their eyes aren't brown leave that night on day 2. The end

    Next case: 3 brown, 3 blue (I'm arbitrarily making brown = blue, I don't think it actually matters).Day 1, guru speaks, no-one leaves.Day 2 everyone now knows no-one is looking at all brown. So if anyone could see only 1 other person with blue eyes at this point, they would conclude they themselves have blue. I suppose if you were one of the three blue eyed people you wouldn't know if the other blue eyed people were looking at 1 blue or more. No-one leaves that night.Day 3 I suppose now everyone can conclude that no-one was looking at only 1 blue, everyone can see at least two blue. So if the other blue eyed people can see 2 blues that means you must have blue eyes. So all blue eyed people leave Day 3?

    Hmm. Maybe I've talked my way round to it. Maybe this keeps going on, each day without departure eliminating anyone seeing that many blue eyes until you get to 100.

    It just seems so utterly counterintuitive that everyone sits there for 99 nights unable to conclude anything?