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  • Apparently not many anthropologists or people interested in history on Lemmy.

    There's a few options, and it depends on what you mean by "gods." The overall category you're looking for is called "Folk Religion" which means it's not organized beyond what local groups chose to believe are the "rules." Without more details, anything below might fit.

    Animism is a starting point, in which you believe that everything has a spirit or is otherwise alive in a spiritual dimension. There aren't gods, per se, but elemental forces are higher forces that are semi-sentient. So, for example, the Sun would be alive, Earth would be alive, the elemental force of water is alive, and each has some sort of sentience, but it's sort of too high to directly talk with people, but you sort of communicate with feelings.

    Shamanism is animism with more nuance. Gods, demigods, demiurges and the like exist - basically there are non-human, non-corporeal entities that operate in a spiritual realm, as do humans, so a shaman does negotiation as a middle-man because they have learned and been trained to be able to operate in both our realm and theirs. While not an organized religion, most forms of shamanism have similar rules and standards. Which is surprising considering that many cultures developed shamanism independently of each other.

    As a sort of more detailed step towards specificity, you then have specific things like Native American traditional religion, Shintoism, many African traditional religions, Druidism and European pagan traditions, modern wiccan or other witchcraft-oriented beliefs, where local gods and spirits abound and are deserving of worship and veneration from everyone, not just having the shaman interceding on your behalf.

    Slightly more organized, but not really, are polytheistic religions. Hinduism, Hellenism, the Roman Pantheon of gods, etc. Westerners think of these as "organized" but they really weren't/aren't in the way that we typically think. There was no main "Church of Zeus" and then after worshiping him, you go to Athena or Nike. A person and household had their god and they gave sacrifices, then also did the same for other gods if they needed their help. It was very ad-hoc, and sort of interesting, as the Greeks and Romans went around the ancient world meeting other cultures, they would find another polytheistic religion and not say "No, our god of war is Ares, and she's stronger than your god of war." They assumed that the gods were the same globally, and it was just the names that changed. So more like "Oh, you call the god of war Kartikeya? Cool, we call him Ares. You know him, too, awesome." So the dogma is actually quite light.

    Honorable mention for Taoism and Buddhism, which both can incorporate varying levels of animistic and shamanic beliefs, plus gods as higher beings that are out there, but not as high as every human's inner Buddha form (if that makes sense). However, as philosophies-cum-religions go, there's much more dogma and convention in play in some versions. However, both are Gnostic, in that personal experience plays a role in shaping a personal dogma, rather than having someone shout rules at you from a pulpit. I'm not familiar with the Taoist angle there, so I may be wrong about that to some degree.

    There are subsets of monotheistic (primarily Abrahamic) religions that are mystical and are less dogmatic. Sufis or Kabalists or Christian Mystics. They sort of do their own thing, and typically are seen as maybe heretical, maybe not, by the mainstream elements of the same religion. This crosses over the last line of what you mentioned about dogma, but worth mentioning.

    Finally, the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster is just about anything you want it to be, and there's also a Church of the Invisible Pink Unicorn.

  • I bet we'll get that gift a bit early.

  • And a 15, 25, 35, 45, 55 year old....

  • Doesn't work, you can shim that thing right off and get a free grenade!

  • US Evangelicals at this point are one big core group with specific branding and associations that uses the mass of people that go to their churches as a financial and political machine, which their leadership wields to their personal benefit. Anyone outside of the mega-church group are marginalized, with some smaller churches on the fringes.

    With the larger group and brand, the Bible means nothing beyond cherry-picking verses to make any point you want. No learning is needed, and everything is how you feel (how the Spirit moves you!) as long as it agrees with what the church says and you tithe. These people would appear as downright heretics to any Christian from the 1800s or before, and have more in common with the Pharisees that Jesus went to Old Timey Israel to call out for being dicks than Jesus himself. Prosperity Gospel, the idea that Jesus gives one money and power if they want it bad enough (entirely heretical), is a big deal for American Evangelicals, as is making a big show of sermons and prayer, something Jesus said was wrong.

    It's entirely about money and politics, selling books and media, making people feel like they belong, and wrapping people and their families up in the brand, making other denominations out to be not even Christian, so if you leave the church you're abandoned. I've had Evangelicals tell me that Catholics and Orthodox denominations aren't Christian at all, and that the Pope has Satanic symbols on his hat. Seriously. Conspiracy theories abound and nothing is done to discourage them, which is why the Evangelicals won't turn away Creationist types, but typically don't confirm that either way. Very little is actually pinned down in terms of religious beliefs, unless it's something that is a political policy matter.

    Since everything comes down to national-level politics and the whims of your local pastor, who often has a high school education at best, sermons can swing wildly around any topic, contradict each other, and provide zero real insight about the Bible or their religion. They're entertainment the same way that Fox News is opinion-entertainment (so says Fox News in court documents to avoid lawsuits). Leaving space for people with mental health issues, corruption, schemers, idiots, and general human slime to prey upon the church. And it's a constant parade of those types, pushing people to go out and say and do anything they feel like, and which usually pushes along the financial and political machine.

  • Replace "paranoid" with "highly surveilled." Just say what it is.

    Easy swap out.

  • STOP CALLING IT PARANOIA! FFS, This stuff is being used to track people that go to protests.

    404 needs to shove their paranoia and normalize using truth and real words and not hedging like CNN or something.

  • Oh, I wasn't aware he had talked that in detail about his ideas.

    And it's weird that he goes from "No one is safe" dispatching Ned Stark early on, to some Breakfast Club ending. I always figured HBO rounded down to their lowest common denominator level and that's why we got what we got. Oh well....

  • 100% same. As if he saw all the hate, didn't want to put forth the effort to explain the discrepancy, and shelved the last book until it all dies down. Maybe even a posthumous publishing just to avoid the haters.

    People are trash. What is wrong with us? It's like anyone that does anything cool and can't keep up perfection forever has no other option but to be a total pariah is they slip.

  • Totally agree on both.

    I read the GOT books, and I'm convinced that HBO is the reason why Martin messed this all up. There was a whole other Targeryen, Aegon VI, that was running around being some charismatic cool dude and also making a claim to the Iron Throne. HBO just cut him out, and I'm convinced that what was supposed to happen was everything was him vs. Danerys at the end, and he took the iron throne, and would have been sitting on it when the dragon fried it, which would have killed him and the throne and left Danerys as the obvious true ruler because she has that fire magic.

    But we'll never know because Martin cashed his checks and peaced out.

  • Not me, but my spouse. In 2008 as the economy was tanking, she went as a box of Franzia. Painted wardrobe box with 2 bladders of wine in there, she took days to paint the box like a real Franzia box. Thing must have weighed 20 pounds. Went to a parade and huge outdoor event and she was very popular. Those nozzles saw a lot of action, and were basically a public health danger 30 minutes into the night. The wine lasted hours and she ditched the box with some wine still in at some house party we passed.

  • I didn't even need to click the link to know what you meant.

    Fun fact: When the windmill arm finger touches the mailbox, it also lights up my heart.

  • Classic money washing. I bet someone is paying exorbitant rent in cash and then happens to also own a company that is a vendor doing work at the strip mall, contracted to work on the same shop doing nothing.

  • I'm only upvoting this in hopes of gaining exposure for MinTay Linux.

  • The Mint desktop is 3 layers of screepcaps mashed together in GIMP. Do you really think an AI that can't get a keyboard right managed to get the Mint desktop background right and add her face perfectly?

  • Yeah, because I added OC on top, like a jaunty hat.

    Try and keep up, OK?

  • How are they not necessary?

  • Oh, I have plenty to spare. Just need a direction.

    Name a celebrity we should idolize as a Linux distro.