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  • @Fizz @ToastedBreakfast I had a look at a few guides. They all come with a few assumptions and get into details but I was thinking that any guide needs to cover:

    options:

    Infrastructure - e.g. VPS/bare metal at home ,

    Applications - nextcloud, media server, home automation etc.

    Middleware - identity/authentication/ reverse proxy, backup, email, Patching/updates , xdav and other support tools for mobile,

    Networking - home network, subnets, vpn/tailscale, firewall, port forwarding, static ips., ipv6

  • @decendedbeing Yeah .. While I find forums can be really useful. just chatting and getting to know people feels more rewarding socially. maybe a #SelfHosting #meetup

  • @LordKitsuna @ToastedBreakfast I wouldn't recommend this as a starting point. Rather I would go down the route of starting to learn about VPNs and DMZs - Open ports on networks can end badly.

  • @net00 @ToastedBreakfast Now you need to start getting some knowledge around routing and networking. Have a look at #Wireguard or #Tailscale to securely access your network remotely. Remember its a journey .. you are going to learn things bit by bit.

  • @Hawk @ToastedBreakfast I get where the thought is coming from - Playing around with a cheap #OpenWRT router can be a way of getting an idea of routing and networking. - They have a gui and config files you can edit directly. You can figure out things like a #firewall #portforwarding - That kind of thing.

  • @SharkStudios @ToastedBreakfast If you are going RaspberryPI - Isn't an SSD a better starting point for storage? - But the best is to work with what you have - the PC

  • @SelfhostedResearch Something I havent quite reconciled is that I would enjoy self hosting more of it came with more mutual connections woth others that self host. Its a activity that has a focus on self sufficiency but I think I would learn more and be better if I was doing it more socially.

  • @eleijeep Oh interesting hardware at €69 seems quite reasonable - Extendable with a HDD enclosure.

  • @irmadlad I think this is beyond one person. I certainly think there has been progress.

  • @mspencer712 Yeah .. though I suspect that perfect could be the enemy of the good enough. I can't really comment - but whether its a single pyhsical device or modular - for me an integrated solution available to regular people is the key.

  • @MentalEdge @HelloRoot Its going to have some really basic questions - Where are you located, who is your ISP, what kind of connection for the internet do you have coming into the house, but then also things like - what do you want your domain name to be - who else is in the house? are they an adult? get them to connect their device to the wifi, what domain name do you want to register/ use? Do you want to connect to any friends/family? Do you want to configure some of these home automation devices I we have detected?

  • @MentalEdge @HelloRoot Yeah I'm really thinking about something that you could fling at a friend - maybe someone who setup their phone, home router, google home or amazon alexa - and they would come out at the end with something that resembles a working internet connection and online identity.

  • @CompactFlax Yeah - at least logically - I get that. I've discussed the point on other comments.

  • @vhstape I'm expecting cloud hosting services to slowly creep up as people get hooked on them - I spent about $150 on a #BananaPiR3 and I think about £80 on a #DellMicro to run Proxmox on (Which I am failing at spectacularly) - There are several reasons why I think its useful - I think we are starting to see the fragility and lack of control that we have with some of these services but also Opensource is slowly pushing back the smoke and mirrors - There is a part of me that wonders whether if something such as this developed ISPs might provide basic versions of then as edge devices - or people might accept that they buy them as the accept a couple hundred quid on an an Alexa or GoogleHome.

  • @Onomatopoeia I think in this case redundancy could be better delivered through a degree of distribution / modularity - perhaps through keeping compontents separate (I have an issue with an application but that doesn't knock out router features) but also through chain of trust with friends and family - you can't access your device (network, power, application ) then you could access backups stored with others - But I do take the point - and discused it in another comment - that perhaps modularity is the answer (e.g. Having a battery backup component that cound support a router component and an app server component ) but perhaps I'm over thinking this anyway - I have no practical way of implementing such a solution / framework myself - perhaps I'm just provocatively discussing it so that people like #Netbox and @bananapi see the discussion and think - hmm perhaps we should have closer relationships with Openwrt or Yunohost - or encourage them to come together somehow..

  • @zuckey78 Do reach out if you want to talk Openwrt - I struggle with the community around it - I need to see faces and speak to people to connect to them - and posting help messages on forums just feels so empty - (But I'll boost my latest challenges with ipv6 just in case - forum.openwrt.org/t/jazztel-or… )

  • @zuckey78 Yeah I do feel that self hosting has sort have become part of that DIY/selfbuild/homebaking/homeownership ethos - Do I think everyone would do it - no but I feel like people are realising that their lives are becoming so thin... (Well I'm trying not to speak too much for myself here.. but we want some ownership/connection