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  • I completely broke Kubuntu

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  • And yet they did so using the package manager.

    So, Davinci Resolve's .run file used for installation definitely somehow interacted with the package manager. Otherwise, the system wouldn't break the way it did. While, technically the package manager was in use (at least at some point), the user -i.e. OP- did not intentionally invoke its use consciously. So, I wouldn't refer to this as "using the package manager".

    They just installed a apt.source

    What is an apt.source? Search engines and LLMs failed at resolving this. They did explain what apt source is or could refer to, though*. Regardless, what leads you to understand that they've installed an apt.source? Please be elaborate as I'm not a Debian/Ubuntu user; consider shedding light on it through the RPM world.

    THAT I would say one should not do unless one really knows what they are doing.

    How does one know which apt.source they should and should not install? Doesn't this imply "expert skills" (using my understanding of your logic)? On Windows, you can install software with almost no fear; as long as the source is trusted.

    If they had just installed some .appimage

    Assuming they've installed libfuse2. Which actually is not present in modern Ubuntu installations.

    or compiled something from source they would have been fine.

    So, in this case, you believe that compiling a gargantuan program like Davinci Resolve would not have caused a ton of issues related to dependencies even if it was supported on Ubuntu?

    So... I'm not going to nuance your stance if it shouldn't be nuanced.

    I thought that my writing was sufficiently easy to comprehend and would not lead to any misunderstandings. Therefore, within that context, nuance was not needed. However, your engagement in the conversation implies that some actually did misunderstand it. Thus, nuance was (seemingly) needed and I only became aware of it afterwards.

    It's a bit up to you to be clear about your nuance. And in this case you're being very ambiguous about it.

    My stance is pretty simple:

    • Use whatever is provided, intended and supported by the 'distro'.
    • For that which goes beyond this, you're on your own and should be prepared to face the consequences.

    So, if one can't deal with the consequences, like how OP had to come here for help, then one should stick to the first point.

  • Vanilla OS 2 Orchid - Stable Release

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  • It just had its first Stable release (as Vanilla OS 2). Therefore, consider to wait it out a bit until it has been well-tested at large. Until then, please feel free to choose something else that is to your liking. Like, what is it that attracted you to this one in the first place?

  • Vanilla OS 2 Orchid - Stable Release

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  • Very curious. I didn't know this. I tried verifying this, but didn't manage to do so.

    So, I got to ask; Was this just a joke? Or is there (some) truth to this claim?

  • I completely broke Kubuntu

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  • I infact did not 100% know what I was doing obviously lol despite having complete confidence that I did

    I know that feeling very well 🤣. I'm glad to hear that you were able to recover your system; at least this mistake only came at the cost of your time and not your system.

    Have a good one 😉!

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  • Microsoft looking to restrict kernel level access after CrowdStrike incident might help us with our current Anti-Cheat dilemma

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  • Justice!

  • Audio broke on fedora 40 (Kde spin Update: removing Pulseaudio and running Plasma-pa helped ty for the nice comments tho)

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  • Does the problem persist after a reboot?

  • KDE + Gnome on Atomic Fedora

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  • Thanks for the update! Glad to hear it's fixed; also thank you (on behalf of the community) for sharing the fix. If I may, I think this would be a classic example of the XY problem. Anyhow, wish ya a great day!

  • Need distro advice

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  • Thanks for sharing that video. It's one of the most ambitious ones I've seen out there. However, if I understood correctly, only average fps is compared right? So not the (more important) 1% or 0.1% lows.

  • I completely broke Kubuntu

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  • Thanks for clarifying!

    That’s pretty strong language

    I agree. But in this case it was 100% justified as OP just (hopefully reversibly) destroyed their installation.

    and what I was responding to.

    Thanks for properly nuancing my stance. Though, perhaps consider to do so right away next time 😜.

    Perhaps you were being hyperbolic.

    It was deliberate. But I wouldn't refer to it as hyperbolic. Perhaps more in the style of an elder sibling scolding their younger sibling to be better next time 😉. Apologies if I missed the mark, though.

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  • 😂. Thanks for the clarification!

  • I completely broke Kubuntu

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  • Yes. Not everything I have is installed through the Google store.

    I understand from this, that it is implied, that the majority of what you have installed, has been done through the Google store though. By extension, I assume that -by default- you entrust installing software to the Google store. Hence, if all of the above is correct, then you actually don't commit to 'the Windows-way' by default; but only by exception. Which is exactly my point.

    But you're acting like one needs to have some expert skills to install things outside of the package manager.

    I feel you're reading too much into it. In my first comment, I didn't even mention package managers. In the second comment, I only wrote -and I quote- "Those should first and foremost be consulted. And for 99% of the cases; this is the intended, supposed and supported way of installing said software.". I don't see where expert skills are implied if one chooses to go outside of it. Please feel free to help me understand where I did.

    It's generally preferred for a number of reasons but it's not bad "per se" to install something outside of it.

    I never implied otherwise.

  • I completely broke Kubuntu

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  • On your phone, do you search the software you want to install through your browser? After which, do you download the install script and try to run it?

    No, of course not. Instead, you pay a visit to the accompanied software center. Searching, installing and upgrading all occur through that.

    Similarly, on Linux, your chosen distro comes with a (or perhaps multiple) package manager(s) and a software center. Those should first and foremost be consulted. And for 99% of the cases; this is the intended, supposed and supported way of installing said software.

    This should suffice for the sake of brevity. If you've still got questions, please feel free to ask them.

  • I completely broke Kubuntu

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  • 1, directly from the website Link

    I hope you've now understood why -on Linux- you should never try to install stuff like how you were used to on Windows. Unless, you 100% know what you're doing.

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  • Thank you for sharing your experiences!

    May I ask you what made you pursue an Arch installation in the first place?

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  • Your reply is much appreciated! Even though I am saddened by the content. And apologies for the upcoming long reply. I thank you in advance for reading through it all.

    Imo

    Thank you for weakening it with "Imo"! To clarify; it seemed as if the "authority" in "appeal to authority" was conflated with content creators. If this wasn't an appeal to authority in the first place, then please feel free to dismiss my earlier stated sentence.

    Normally, I would have asked for clarification in order to prevent possible miscommunication. Unfortunately, after our first serious attempt at reconciling our differences failed miserably, I have instead chosen for a more direct approach in hopes of making it more accessible. It's also more prone to being misunderstood as confrontational, aggressive et cetera. But, if even my super sweet approach in the earlier mentioned conversation failed, I don't see why I should make it less accessible for all involved parties if it doesn't benefit either of us.

    this shows your aggressive inability to accept opinions different to yours

    I may as well accuse you of doing the same. But..., I don't. But somehow I'm perceived as the villain. I simply fail to understand.

    On Lemmy, I engage for one reason, and for one reason only; to arrive at a mutual understanding. This manifests itself in multiple ways:

    • I'm interested in the communities output on a certain query and engage with them through a post I create.
    • I'm introduced to a new concept through a post/comment -> Search engines don't yield anything useful -> I ask a question in hopes of learning something new -> And hopefully that engagement yields new information for me; I'm primarily on the receiving end of 'profit'
    • Someone poses something that I don't agree with or don't understand -> I engage in hopes of my understanding being proven wrong; as that results in the most new information; hence most profit -> Most often, it's somewhere in between; I might get a new perspective on something, but not too crazy. At times, though, the person I was engaging with had some notions that were not entirely backed up; hence, we both end up learning a thing or two
    • Misinformation or fake news or misunderstanding or whatever known false fact is shared -> I engage in hopes of combating false notions. No profit; but you gotta do what you gotta do
    • Question is asked, I happen to know an answer that might be helpful -> I contribute. No profit; but contributions are required to foster a nice community

    To be clear; I love to accept valid criticism. Especially, if they provide me with new insights and polish my own ideas/notions. Heck, I've even been complimented on how I engage with them in one of our first interactions. And, if you've noticed, this very conversation below our current post is not very different. I just ask you to back up your claims so that I may learn from them. I want to accept them; new knowledge/insights/profit et cetera. But I can't simply accept your claims on the basis of nothing. That doesn't make any sense. That's not how epistemology works.

    even if they are obviously more true.

    If they're "obviously more true", then it should have been obviously easy to prove their truth. But, I've yet to receive a proof, even after I've explicitly asked you. Or, conversely, proof my falsehood. That's basically the problem at hand: you're less sensitive to back up your claims; even when pressed to do so. Instead, you choose to do whatever you did (or tried) in your most recent reply.

    Or, I don't know, ask me how I'm so sure of my own convictions/judgements/ideas. But, and that's very curious; I don't recall you ever asking me a question. Isn't that the most obvious indication that I'm actively trying to engage with your ideas and your output? While you seem to be completely devoid of that. And, somehow, I've become the one that's regarded as possessing "aggressive inability to accept opinions different to yours, even if they are obviously more true.". Sorry, I simply can't take this serious 😅.

    At this point I'm asking you to stop stalking me and making fun of me

    Fam, you got some hate-boner towards Fedora, 'immutable' distros and especially their intersection; Fedora Atomic. Either educate yourself on them and act accordingly, or simply stop spreading misinformation. Either way, you'll never hear from me again. Related point; simply don't spread misinformation. Period.

    making fun of me

    I fail to see how I am even making fun of you. If you perceive 'pressing to back up claims' as making fun of you, then... I simply don't know what to say.

  • KDE + Gnome on Atomic Fedora

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  • Can I run KDE and Gnome on bazzite?

    Both GNOME and KDE Plasma are supported on Bazzite.

    How can I install and manage multiple images?

    Multiple images can only coexist as follows:

    • Dual-boot
    • Rebase to second image -> pin second image with sudo ostree admin pin <insert digit> -> rebase back to original image. From now on, you can access this second image from GRUB. It's recommended to designate a different user to the second image; and only access it through that. While what has been just described technically works, and you could even keep the second image up to date with a super cumbersome upgrade path, managing a system like this is not supported and could lead to unforeseen circumstances. Though, it is valid to pin your original image -> test another image through rebasing (and a new designated user) -> rollback to original image. Pinning the original image is not necessary, but I like to play safe. Note that rpm-ostree reset might be needed sometimes for rebasing.

    Now I suspect that perhaps the game freeze wouldn’t happen with Gnome either. So I want to have both on bazzite, but can’t figure it out.

    So, IIUC, you're just interested to know if this problem persists on GNOME or not. So, consider the following:

    • Pin your current deployment with sudo ostree admin pin 0.
    • Create a new user, but don't use it yet.
    • Rebase to Bazzite's GNOME image.
    • Reboot
    • Enter through the new user (or create a new one).
    • Test out whatever you want.
    • Rollback through rpm-ostree rollback
    • Reboot
    • Continue using your original user.
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  • Thank you for the reply!

    Disclaimer: After a couple of revisions and rewrites, I concluded that directness and conciseness was required. If my tone seems confrontational at times, I would like you to know that that's not my intent. Therefore, in such cases, I would like to friendly request you to assume the best. Thank you.

    User-friendly articles

    How is uBlue's documentation not user-friendly? Be specific and come with an example.

    forums

    Naive in a post-Discord world.

    User-friendly ~articles an~d answers ~on forums~ to absolutely all more or less common issues

    Based on what do you imply that uBlue's discourse and Discord has failed this? Again, be explicit and give an example.

    It's very important for a new user imo. We shouldn't overwhelm them with choices and technical documentation.

    Assumes new users to be sufficiently homogeneous in this regard. The silent majority is not accounted for.

    choices

    What choices?

    If you don't believe me

    I believe there's definitely some truth in your earlier made statements.

    check some content creators. They all agree that we should just give them a popular distro like Mint or Ubuntu and let them progress as fast as they can.

    Even if that's true, I think it's hilarious to appeal to their consensus 😂.

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  • Recommending Fedora and especially its atomic spins without much documentation to a new user?

    To be clear; while OP does mention "Fedora Silverblue" to introduce and contrast atomic distros to traditional ones, they only explicitly recommend uBlue images.

    And while it's by no means as exhaustive as the ArchWiki or Gentoo Wiki, uBlue's documentation isn't a slouch either; I've seen far worse. If possible, could you name what's crucially missing?