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  • that makes a little more sense, though debian is not as strict as fedora about propietary software (it is in the separate nonfree section, but that's it)

  • atomic desktops

    i guess it makes sense in that case, but i'm really not convinced flatpaks should be used as the default (or only, apparently) way to install every application in the system. flatpak's flexibility is great for the particular cases where you want to install newer versions of applications or if an application isn't available in the official repos somehow. besides that, just use distro packages

    Another reason is, that you might not be able to install the latest version of an application as rpm package if a required dependency in the repo is outdated

    doesn't flathub solve that already?

  • i don't have an issue with multiple flatpak repos. i'd actually find it very interesting if we went a more decentralized route with flatpak (maybe kde, gnome, mozzila would each have their own repos). but i don't see the point of a distro-specific flatpak when we already have normal packages. compatibility is kind of a non-issue, since you're not supposed to install them elsewhere anyway (unlike flatpaks)

    also, i see absolutely no reason to use fedora's flatpak repo on debian given that flathub exists already. you could add it if you want it, but what's the point?

  • sounds weird to me. aren't we replicating the repository problem if each distro decides to make a flatpak repo according to their own philosophies?

  • then why not just use regular packages?

  • damn

    and i thought my computer was obsolete. i bought it "new" 10 years ago, but i optimized for price, so it was already obsolete then. still, it supports usb booting

  • didn't read the article, but i never got the point of having a distro-specific flathub repo. isn't being distro-agnostic the main thing about flatpaks?

  • yeah, i think you'd have to make a lot of effort to find a pc newer than 20 years old that doesn't support usb booting

  • my card is not supported by anything newer than 470, so your comment doesn't apply to my case

  • if i had an amd video card i would have moved to wayland ages ago. things on wayland are so much more polished than on x11

    why does nvidia have to suck so much? i'm still salty about the eglstreams bullshit

  • debian

    fedora

    opensuse tumbleweed (which happens to also be rolling release)

    gentoo and lfs make it very clear they're demanding distros. arch is just a little easier, but it's closer to gentoo than to debian

  • that's a little besides the point. my point is that you have to always be ready, even if an actual intervention event takes a while to happen. you're used to it and/or got lucky, but the op is not the first person i see having issues like this and getting blamed for them because they should know better

  • i believe you. also, my great uncle has smoked since he was 13 and he's now 86 and is still alive

    seriously, though, if you do everything right, arch is a great system. it is really well put together and very stable all things considered. the problem is the "doing everything right" part. what happened to op is pretty common if you stop reviewing your updates one by one for a week or two. if you're used to that, then arch is perfect. otherwise, it's a chore

  • arch only works if you think maintaining every detail of a linux system is fun, because you have to constantly know what you're doing and that's a huge commitment. stuff like what the op described is bound to happen if you ever get bored of it and decide not to pay much attention to the system one particular week

  • yeah, it is pretty fun, i used arch for a long time years ago and i liked it. but it's a huge commitment and you can't ever forget the system exists (which sometimes you need to do if you have a life)

  • it is

    ...if you're willing to put in the effort to play linux

  • this is an arch linux problem, not a rolling-release problem. tumbleweed doesn't have issues like that