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CosmicSploogeDrizzle

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Milky Way Galaxy

Alternate account for [email protected]

Message me on Matrix: @cosmicsploogedrizzle:matrix.org

  • Of course! Whoever runs the server bears the cost. How they pay for it is up to them and the community. Maybe you run your own instance and pay out if pocket. You'd be your own admin and can do whatever you want. Or you join lemmy.ml and maybe donate or sub to patreon, or you don't pay anything. Maybe in the future some instances might make private deals to pin ads at the top in exchange for payment. It's up to the server hoster. Right now it's the wild wild West. If a server gets filled with ads and you don't like it, you pick up shop and join a different server.

    What lemmy/the fediverse really needs is an account migration tool, so that if you want to set up shop elsewhere, you can export all your subscriptions and settings, etc and import it into a new profile on a new instance. That will come with time

  • Yes, somewhat. Communities are like subreddits. So yes, if a community is doing what people don't like they can pick up and make a new community. A good example is on reddit r/gaming used to be more discussion and news focused but over time it became more popular and filled with memes. Some in the community didn't like this so they made the r/games subreddit which is news and discussion focused.

    On lemmy, that new community can be made on the same instance or on a different instance.

    What I was getting at, was that in addition to this, if the communities on an instance dont like how an entire instance is being run, they can pick up shop and just move to a new instance. As a user you'd have to make a new account on a new instance, but you'd be able to subscribe to all the same communities on the instances you like.

    To simplify: Instances are run by admins, communities by mods. On reddit your only option is to make a new subreddit and change your mods if you don't like something, but you will always have u/spez as your admin. On lemmy, you can ditch your admins and set up shop with other admins.

    To answer your kbin vs lemmy question: The only reason you would pick one over the other would mostly be due to their layout and customization. Additionally, instances can block other instances, so you might like kbins layout, but maybe they block an instance that has a community that you like. Conversely, kbin might have a cool community you want to subscribe to, but your specific lemmy instance is blocking it. So you can do what I said above, you pick up shop and you set up in an instance that doesn't block the community you want to join. Alternatively, you can set up your own instance on your own server and then you can join anything you want, provided that you aren't so toxic that other communities potentially block you lol.

    I have general helpful additional links in the bottom of my sidebar over on my community https://lemmy.ml/c/ps5 if you want to see how you can do some of what I said above.

  • Thanks! Feel free to cross post it!

  • Imagine there were multiple reddit websites. Reddit.com, reddit.org, reddit.social, etc. Doesn't matter what account you have, you can see communities/subreddits across anyone of them.

    That's Lemmy.

    When you make a lemmy account, it's more like an email address. You are [email protected], I am [email protected]. Someone else is [email protected]. We can all chat and post and have a good time no matter what website/instance we post to.

    That's how users work on lemmy. Just like email. Communities on lemmy work the exact same way as users.

    If all you're interested in is that, then you can stop there and fully enjoy your time with lemmy as a reddit replacement.

    The future potential and complexity comes from the next part:

    The fediverse is someone said, "hey, you know how people on reddit can't follow people on Twitter, or people on YouTube can't subscribe to subreddits, or people on Instagram can't leave YouTube comments? Well let's make it so you can.

    Now this isn't perfectly implemented at the moment, and there are a lot of growing pains (it's kinda like the wild wild West), but you can make a mastodon account (like Twitter), and follow the this lemmy community [email protected] on it, and you'll see all the posts and all the comments that you would otherwise see on lemmy, just in a twitter-like format.

    It's not perfect and compatibility across these decentealized apps is not perfectly impremented atm, but in the future you could theoretically have one giant interconnected web where everything from "Twitter" to "reddit" to "YouTube" to "Instagram" to whatever fediverse equivalent app are all interwoven. And if any instance of them gets a big enough head to pull something like reddit is pulling, or what Twitter has been pulling, the community can just make a new "email" on a different instance/website and continue as of nothing changed. No single website/instance can abuse their power, because another instance can be spun up any time.

  • Yeah, he could start with lemmy (reddit) and then branch out to tackle all the other services in the fediverse like peertube (YouTube), mastodon (Twitter), etc. Kinda like how kbin supports magazines (lemmy communities) and microblogging (mastodon) from the same site.

  • If you can, please give the reddit post some love so hopefully he sees how many of us would help support the endeavor!

  • Nah, that's the issue. It only changes the post view for now. Comments are unchanged. Thereis a fix already afaik, it just has to be merged into the codebase. It's not a big deal, these are just the early times and growing pains

  • I agree! If you can, please show the post on reddit some love so we can get exposure on it and show the dev how many people want it!

  • I hope they add that feature also. Lots of features are missing from the app. I can't edit my community sidebar, appoint mods, cross post, and many more actions from Jerboa yet. Hell, we can't even change the comment text size yet. I assume it will all come with time.

  • Use the web browser to log into your instance and do the initial subscription. It should then show in Jerboa (might take a little time)

  • We are early days. Competition breeds innovation. The best communities will filter to the top

  • Great work! One suggestion: I think the bookmark icon on Jerboa should probably be changed to match the star icon on the lemmy instance website.

    Preferably I would like the opposite (the star to change to a bookmark), but either way I think it should probably match.

    Any news on when this might be rolled out?

  • Redreader dev said they were going to build their app to work with lemmy, hacker news, and other sources. Hopefully others follow.

    When there were limited options for reddit, devs came and build the first apps. There is opportunity in lemmy now, so I'm sure others will pivot

  • Jerboa isn't an instance. It's just an app. If a community hasn't been indexed yet, then Jerboa can't find it in search. You'd need to use the website to do that first. Once added it should then show up in search for others on your instance in Jerboa. The only thing that can block instances is other instances.

  • Fingers crossed🤞

  • It's the best name in the whole Milky Way Galaxy

  • Forget waves then. Reddit gonna slip into the sea like Atlantis