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  • Nah, they're hating and you're just coming to their defense.

    That guy you're talking to up there? @can@shitjustworks or whatever his name is? He admitted what he is actually doing -- concern trolling because he and the others are that damn juvenile.

    He deleted his response as soon as he realized what he did.

    Oh, and this guy? @[email protected]? That is @UsernameLost's alt account. Look at the page -- it's a 4-month-old account with no posts and the only 4 comments ever made on it were in this thread. Where he's talking to himself.

    And @intensely_human literally followed me here from another thread.

    It legitimately is one of the sadder shitshows I've seen on Lemmy so far.

    They're doing this to deliberately fuck up a NaNoWriMo thread.

    It doesn't actually matter too much though. Like I said, they're the ones missing out, not me. 😎

  • And you of course took the opportunity not to practice as you preach but to make yourself feel superior to both.

    They already made up their mind that they don't like NaNoWriMo and it's not my responsibility nor my prerogative to try to control other people's feelings about it. If they don't like it, I'll just dismiss them, as I have, and be done with it. If they do, I'll talk about it with them.

    That was my one and only intention when making this thread. I do that because I respect the agency (I like to assume) other people have. You really need to learn to do the same.

  • Wow I didn’t even need to quote two sentences of yours to expose your hypocrisy. You managed to do it in the span of ten words.

    I'm not defending anyone.

    You showed yours in four.

    You showed yours the second you opened your mouth defending dumbasses in here while completely ignoring their own brand of vitriol, and offering up your own as a consequence.

    You show yours when you couldn't be assed to look at my post history for five minutes like a decent concern troll. 🤦

    You're literally doing it right now, looking for a cheap gotcha moment, and when you read this and find out it didn't work because I am openly an asshole, you're going to whine and complain, and I'm gonna sit here and shake my head right along with OP.

    You are on the wrong side of history and you are actively helping to destroy not only the U.S. but the rest of the developed world with your garbage and you give not one single fuck as long as you can use stupid people -- and I emphasize stupid people -- to virtue signal.

    Grow up.

  • Oh look at that, no substantive argument defending openly rejecting learning, just more viciousness and vitriol because that's all ignorant motherfuckers like you know how to do when confronted with your own flaws. Knock me over with a feather.

    I'm angry and butthurt because you called me out on my vapidity and now I am attacking you for it

    Die mad. You're doing wrong being willfully ignorant and you're doubly wrong for defending something so harmful and dangerous. You're not going to bully me into shutting up simply because you don't want to hear the truth.

    You have to know basic shit and most importantly, want to learn to be a meaningful participant in a fucking democracy. We're trying to run a society here. We have no time for your ignorance. You've caused enough suffering and destruction as it is.

  • Well, you can sit and hate all you want, the rest of us will have fun with or without you.

    The only one who's going to suffer from being so miserable is you.

  • Which I find strange. Usually anti-intellectualism is open, up-front, and honest about what it is. People buying books and not reading them just to pretend they're smart doesn't seem like a thing that actually happens in real life, just a straw intellectual the willfully ignorant like to beat up.

  • So in other words, you're just part of the problem.

  • All of the things I'm going to do. I hope I have time to do them.

  • Intellectualism is a moral issue, and a serious one in our society.

    The only way democracy works is if the population is intellectual, and when it stops being such, it falls apart. We can't afford for people to reject learning and education the way they have. It's the reason why we get dipshit wannabe dictators like Donald Trump in office and why corporations and companies have been allowed to run roughshod over everything this country claims to stand for. It's why climate collapse has been allowed to go on unabated. It's literally the root of all of our problems.

    Don't stand here and try to tell us it's not a moral issue. It is. And people who refuse to learn anything are doing something wrong.

  • I read Fahrenheit 451 on a whim one day and the scenario was the exact same one we're in today. Except the fire department in the real world still tries to put out actual fires instead of burning books. We're not that far gone yet.

  • It couldn't possibly be because of dumbshits like you who enable them, thinking that by allowing them to dominate the conversation every single time it is brought up that you'll convince them to see the light or anything.

    It couldn't possibly be people like you pushing popular misconceptions about the debate and blindly accepting every dumb personal attack they make on the rest of us as true without critically thinking about any of it or applying any of your intelligence or anything.

    Nah. The problem is other people who call them out and hold them accountable. Totally everyone else.

  • Having tried this, no, it does not. People are anti-intellectual because they willfully choose to be ignorant. They're like that for several different reasons, but their choices are the same.

    What actually matters is not allowing people like you to shame the rest of us who do value knowledge into submitting to the will of people like that out of a misguided notion that judging them for their stupidity is wrong or bad. It's not. It's called holding people accountable for their actions and choices, and it's a thing we have been doing far too little of in society.

    Hold people accountable for not knowing basic shit and refusing to learn it. Grown adults have no excuse, barring some learning disability, for not having decent reading comprehension, or not being able to do basic math, or not having critical thinking skills. We're trying to run a democracy here and that requires having an educated public. And that means the public has to be willing to educate themselves.

    For fuck's sake. I don't know everything either but if there's something I don't know, I learn it. I at least try.

    You're part of the problem defending them by shaming us. You're part of the reason why anti-intellectualism is such a problem: you enable irresponsibility, indolence, and selfishness by protecting people who refuse to learn from consequences.

  • Only when people stop giving credence to the argument that you don't actually need to read or learn math or science to get a job and pay your bills.

  • If you've seriously never heard of it before, look it up, it's fun

  • Why would you waste money on something that bores you?

  • What was it called?

  • People don't read popular science books? 🤨🤨

    Okay, I admit, I am deeply perplexed by everything everyone is saying in this thread. Do people seriously keep books on bookshelves not for reading, but for decoration or to pretend they're well-read? Why wouldn't they just read the books?