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  • [Serious] The revolution was successful! The old government is gone. You get to help write the new Constitution. What do you put into it?

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  • Having a FOSS voting system would enable electronic voting without the baggage. Decentralize the means to certify votes. End to end encryption and anonymization always. If there are groups of people who disagree with the vote, they get separated from the main group and given land and territory of their own. That's how I'd do it.

  • [Serious] The revolution was successful! The old government is gone. You get to help write the new Constitution. What do you put into it?

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  • I don't think using ignorant Americans as a policy standard is going to achieve anything.

  • [Serious] The revolution was successful! The old government is gone. You get to help write the new Constitution. What do you put into it?

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  • Ehh. Blaming it on age and not the isolated actions of a single generation is really doing a disservice to all of humanity. Historically older people never hosed younger people as things have been happening now so it can't be an age thing.

    Granted, there's historical precedent for having a mandatory retirement age and age minimums for a lot of things, but banning 50-70 year olds is a really hard sell, especially since that's around the age when people are the most influential and productive in their lives.

  • [Serious] The revolution was successful! The old government is gone. You get to help write the new Constitution. What do you put into it?

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  • You can just edit your post, you know

  • [Serious] The revolution was successful! The old government is gone. You get to help write the new Constitution. What do you put into it?

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  • Aren't a lot of professionals who build this world 50-somethings?

  • [Serious] The revolution was successful! The old government is gone. You get to help write the new Constitution. What do you put into it?

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  • Then you can't have any government, or really, any meaningful social interaction.

    All democratic governments are built on the assumption they'll be acted upon in good faith, because without good faith, no cooperation or society is possible. All a society is is a group of people either working together in good faith.

    If you want to go off and live by the law of the jungle, then by all means, go ahead. But the rest of us will move on without you.

  • [Serious] The revolution was successful! The old government is gone. You get to help write the new Constitution. What do you put into it?

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    Okay, so I have put a LOT of thought into this question, and after reading everyone else's opinions on the matter, I thought I'd share mine. You guys have a lot of good ideas, some of which I didn't think about before. I hope my ideas can inspire similar contemplation.

    Okay, here goes:

    IN THE NAME OF liberty, truth, justice, cupcakes, porn, and all that is good in this life, We The People of The Motherfucking Galactic Republic hereby establish and ordain this new Constitution, with blackjack and hookers.

    Based on the millennia of suffering of ourselves and our ancestors, We The People hereby establish and remind the reader that ALL PEOPLE HAVE BASIC NATURAL RIGHTS that either the government or any organization of people cannot violate, or must enable and adhere to, respectively. We lay out this Constitution to provide a Framework from which the government, organizations and the people can sort out what and how that should be done, and what ways most benefit the people.

    We also hereby establish in the name of harmony, justice, truth and goodness that along with RESPECTING AND ENABLING NATURAL RIGHTS, government, organizations and the people must also adhere to certain responsibilities to ensure the best and most positive outcome for the people and to protect the natural rights of everyone involved.

    NATURAL RIGHTS

    We the People hereby establish this list of Natural Rights we recognize from the start.

    We first stress that this list is not exhaustive, and that Natural Rights are not limited to only the contents of the list. As the future plays out, the people will experience situations new to humanity and therefore the Natural Rights of which the people expect the government and organizations to enforce and protect will, by its nature, expand. New amendments to this list shall be done in accordance with the instructions of this here Constitution.

    RIGHT #1: THE RIGHT TO HAVE ONE'S PHYSICAL NEEDS MET

    The most basic of all Natural Rights is the right to have one's physical needs met by the government and organizations. These rights include, but not limited to:

    • The right to steady and fair access to nutritious and delicious food, and clean, safe, drinkable water.
    • The right to a safe, clean, pestilence-free, and sturdy domicile that will comfortably meet a person's need for shelter, food, water, electricity and homeostasis.
    • The right to access to electricity, including but not limited to power generation for their shelter.
    • The right to access and use all publicly available or published information that has ever been created up to this point and in the future.
    • The right to access and use communications platforms, including but not limited to mail and any electronic communications systems developed before or since, especially Internet and interplanetary/interstellar communications systems.
    • The right to clean, suitably fitting clothing that will meet the wearer's need for protection from the external world and homeostasis.
    • The right to clean, safe, fast and efficient transportation, on all scopes as described later in this Constitution.

    No organization and no government can receive or require payment for the fulfillment of any of these aspects of the right to have one's needs met.

    RIGHT #2: THE RIGHT TO SAFETY

    We The People assert that we live in an objective reality with a natural world filled not only with wonders, but with many dangers, and therefore the government and organizations are mandated to protect, enforce and safeguard the very real need the people have to maintain and protect themselves, each other, their communities, nation and species.

    These rights include, but not limited to:

    • The inalienable right to use lethal or non-lethal force in self-defense and defense of other people in life-threatening situations, whether those situations be immediate, or long-term such as domestic abuse, stalking or harassment.
    • The right of all individuals to own weapons.
    • The right to access and receive combat training, including in the use of weapons.
    • The collective right to own ordnance for all communities.
    • The collective right to form militias and militaries, and to give combat training access to all individuals in a community.
    • The right to secure one's domicile against all forms of attack, whether foreign or domestic

    Weapons are defined as:

    • any instrument or device for use in attack or defense in combat, fighting, or war, as a sword, rifle, drone or cannon, that can be held and operated by a single individual. Explosive devices equal to or less in power than a stick of TNT are also included.

    Ordnance is defined as:

    • any vehicle designed for military or combat use, including but not limited to tanks, ships, airplanes, or spaceships; large weapons that require more than one individual to operate; explosive devices more powerful than one stick of TNT; bioweapons; nuclear, relativistic (such as asteroids or missiles deliberately launched toward another) or antimatter weapons. Note that individuals are explicitly ALLOWED to have vehicles NOT designed for combat use as defined here. No government or organization can declare a clearly not combat-designed vehicle as one.

    FOR THE safety, protection, provision, and betterment of the people of The Motherfucking Galactic Republic, the government is mandated to have and operate A SPACE PROGRAM, to be given no less than 10% of the federal government's gross earnings (whether they be taxes, direct revenue, however the hypothetical government makes money).

    This space program must do, bare minimum:

    And that's as far as I've got. The Motherfucking Galactic Republic is obviously just a filler name; I don't know if any of these ideas would ever be implemented but they could be used for any new nation, so...

  • [Serious] The revolution was successful! The old government is gone. You get to help write the new Constitution. What do you put into it?

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  • Corporations should honestly be banned outright. There's no actual reason to have them. Have workers' guilds do collective labor if it's that damn important, and ban the guilds from doing any of the evil shit corporations do.

    That's just my opinion. I have a whole-ass treatise about what I'd put in a constitution and I might share it in the thread if people want to hear it.

  • [Serious] The revolution was successful! The old government is gone. You get to help write the new Constitution. What do you put into it?

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  • I'd be down with that

  • [Serious] The revolution was successful! The old government is gone. You get to help write the new Constitution. What do you put into it?

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  • Your new government, presumably.

    Though if you can't trust it to faithfully enforce its laws, why have it? Or any government, for that matter?

    Like, you can take the fear of discrimination to justify not having anything

  • This is like a nightmare Romanticist version of David Hasselhoff eating that burger

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  • Man, my faith in humanity meter keeps dropping and dropping and dropping with every little thing I see on Lemmy today. Can we get some good news, please?

  • [Serious] The revolution was successful! The old government is gone. You get to help write the new Constitution. What do you put into it?

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  • He's just trolling, just ignore him.

  • [Serious] The revolution was successful! The old government is gone. You get to help write the new Constitution. What do you put into it?

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  • To be fair, literally anything can, will be or probably has already been used to enforce discrimination or segregation somewhere in the world. We won't get anywhere living in fear of bigots.

  • [Serious] The revolution was successful! The old government is gone. You get to help write the new Constitution. What do you put into it?

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  • Long term space colonization

    Stopping climate collapse

    Complete restructuring of our social and legal systems

    A few little things here and there, really

  • [Serious] The revolution was successful! The old government is gone. You get to help write the new Constitution. What do you put into it?

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  • The question of whether the text of the proposed constitution should form a base for a future constitution was put to a non-binding referendum, where it won the approval of 67% of voters.[3][4] However, the government's term finished before the reform bill could be passed, and following governments have not acted upon it.

    Wait. So does Iceland have an official Constitution now or nah?

  • [Serious] The revolution was successful! The old government is gone. You get to help write the new Constitution. What do you put into it?

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  • regardless of beliefs,

    What about Nazis?

  • [Serious] The revolution was successful! The old government is gone. You get to help write the new Constitution. What do you put into it?

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  • I have no idea.

  • This is like a nightmare Romanticist version of David Hasselhoff eating that burger

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  • The biggest lie I've seen all day

  • This is like a nightmare Romanticist version of David Hasselhoff eating that burger

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  • A lot of them are like that and that's actually a good thing.

    It'll be a little while before people can generate photographs that are indistinguishable from the real thing, completely destroying our ability to critically evaluate anything.

    So we still have time to stop it.