poVoq

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Admin on the slrpnk.net Lemmy instance.
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2mo ago

What's the best chat to self host?
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poVoq @slrpnk.net 2mo ago

Ejabberd is definitly for more advanced users, but you can usually get help over at joinjabber.org (which has a webclient that you can use without an xmpp account).
But yes, Snikket and Prosody is easier to set up.

2mo ago

What's the best chat to self host?

I mean, XMPP is great, but if you are only interested in private chats with your family in a virtual LAN then it (and Matrix) is probably overkill and a bit of a hassle to configure without a public domain (as that is expected for federation).

Maybe a Nextcloud Talk or a Jitsi Meet instance would be simpler?

2mo ago

I am attempting to get into Selfhosting after a shockingly frightening experience, but I am very lost.

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poVoq @slrpnk.net 2mo ago

Unless you have experience with ethernet equipment and such it is probably better to start with some hosted service of an open-source app like Nextcloud or Immich or (slightly more advanced) a VPS somewhere. Doing it immediately from home with your own server has a steep learning curve.

2mo ago

Really liking glance

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poVoq @slrpnk.net 2mo ago

Needs Lemmy support 🤷

2mo ago

XMPP servers / communities?

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poVoq @slrpnk.net 2mo ago

The reverse, i.e. getting outage notifications and so on via xmpp is quite common.

I can't really think of any usecase to control self-hosted apps from a messenger, but sure, technically you could write such a bot quite easily.

2mo ago

XMPP servers / communities?

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poVoq @slrpnk.net 2mo ago

XMPP is truly decentralized with no single point that collects this kind of data. There have been some attempts over the years, but they always failed to capture more than a fraction of the network. A recent one is more artistic in nature, probably realizing the futility of it.

The popular Conversations app has sold 100k+ units on the PlayStore, but since you can also legally get it for free, that is probably only part of the actual users.

2mo ago

XMPP servers / communities?

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poVoq @slrpnk.net 2mo ago

Please don't recommend jabber.org, it is super outdated and lacks almost all modern features.

2mo ago

XMPP servers / communities?

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poVoq @slrpnk.net 2mo ago

What do you mean with bots in this context?

2mo ago

XMPP servers / communities?

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poVoq @slrpnk.net 2mo ago

We have an [email protected] community here on Lemmy. Our SLRPNK instance also gives an XMPP account to every member automatically and hosts a Movim webclient for easy access.

XMPP is certainly more popular for private groups and 1:1 chatting so you will not find that many large public channels, but there is a search engine here: https://search.jabber.network/tags/

The JoinJabber project also has a curated list of recommended channels and communities: https://joinjabber.org/docs/faqs/rooms/

2mo ago

The end of tt-rss.org

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poVoq @slrpnk.net 2mo ago

No, they are shutting down their publicly hosted infrastructure and say that their project is "finished" anyways, so it doesn't matter that much as a justification. But the main point about the post is the public facing infrastructure and how they lost motivation to run it.

2mo ago

The end of tt-rss.org

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poVoq @slrpnk.net 2mo ago

What? They explicitly talk about shutting down their self-hosted infrastructure which includes two git services and other targets of AI scraping. Did you even read the post?

2mo ago

The end of tt-rss.org

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poVoq @slrpnk.net 2mo ago

It makes a lot of sense. Both the git repos that they hosted and things like a RSS feed-reader are things that are the prime target for AI scrapers and the same time quite database query heavy on the backend so that the scraping really has a big impact on the costs of running these services.

And yes source-code is among what is the most targeted data to ingest by AI scrapers, mainly to train coding assistants but apparently it also helps LLMs to understand logic better.

2mo ago

The end of tt-rss.org

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poVoq @slrpnk.net 2mo ago

Yes and the reason they state sounds a lot like AI scraping made hosting public services such a PITA that they lost motivation to continue doing it. Lots of long running projects that used to require very little maintainance are now DDOSed by these scrapers.

2mo ago

The end of tt-rss.org

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poVoq @slrpnk.net 2mo ago

The post is a bit low on details, but I strongly suspect this is a victim of AI scraping.

2mo ago

flohmarkt a federated alternative to ebay and facebook marketplace

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poVoq @slrpnk.net 2mo ago

No, this isn't about individual persons turning bad or something silly like that. You can't have a little decentralization either, for economic reasons. Once you get large instances in a supposedly decentralized network these by necessity need to professionalize sooner or later. Which means they need to find investors and a way to gain income from it. And then the enshittification commences... it is naive to believe that you as the founder are immune to that and if you try to resist it, the investors and other staff will find a way to push you out.

2mo ago

flohmarkt a federated alternative to ebay and facebook marketplace

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poVoq @slrpnk.net 2mo ago

I was thinking about activity tracking stuff like Wanderer or DiveDB... as my Flohmarkt instance would be also more outdoor stuff themed. But yes event management stuff like Mobilizon or Ganzio, or (non-federated) Lauti or Karrot might be an interesting option as well.

2mo ago

flohmarkt a federated alternative to ebay and facebook marketplace

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poVoq @slrpnk.net 2mo ago

No one talks about only one possible alternative, but it is often not immediately obvious to laypersons why a defense mechanism is vital to have and can not be made a middle ground. Like for example there is no way to weaken end to end encryption a little bit to scan for CSAM, without breaking it entirely.

2mo ago

flohmarkt a federated alternative to ebay and facebook marketplace

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poVoq @slrpnk.net 2mo ago

This assumes all these hundreds of pages are exactly the same and can be automated with bots without anyone noticing immediately.

There is a reason why spam on the Fediverse almost exclusively comes from a few large generic servers.

2mo ago

flohmarkt a federated alternative to ebay and facebook marketplace

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poVoq @slrpnk.net 2mo ago

Maybe those European buyers were using the US/global page of ebay? The German ebay is an entirely different legal entity and (at least when I last used it) didn't interact with anything other than what happened on their website for Germany only. Maybe it works differently in Canada, no idea.

2mo ago

flohmarkt a federated alternative to ebay and facebook marketplace

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poVoq @slrpnk.net 2mo ago

I actually typed 99.999% first, but then decided some stickler would for sure question that number then 🤦

The point is that operating on hundreds of different pages that each have limited reach and interact only in a limited fashion in a way that isn't a problem for legitimate users but severely limits the volume spammers can reach is a lot of work. Spam only makes sense when it is cheap to do and high volume.