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  • Marx outlined that socialism and communism each had to be transitioned to

    No. Socialism is an economic mode of production. Communism is a set of social relations that are theorized to appear out of material abundance. Communism uses socialism as a mode of production. There is no transition from Socialism to Communism.

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  • Because the Chinese state has fiat monetary sovereignty, it doesn’t function in the capitalist mode.

    Yeah all nation states have this. Countries that don't call themselves socialist have state owned enterprise and turn a profit. Non-seqitur.

  • “996” was never legal,

    Cool. Union-busting is illegal in the US too. Not paying overtime is illegal in the US too. Doesn't make it DoTP.

    was never pervasive

    Proof?

    and the state cracked down on it years ago.

    Proof?

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  • A state where the biggest capital holders

    So you admit it is capitalist?

    are regularly punished if they break the law or step out of line politically is not a state where capital has final say.

    The state are capitalists, they employ workers in state enterprises and pay them a wage in exchange for their labor. They are just a different aristocratic rank then the private capitalists

    There’s been no counter revolution in China, the organs of proletarian power remain in place even as reforms have been undertaken in every facet of life in China.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/996_working_hour_system

    This system would NOT be possible in a DoTP.

  • It's not reductionist to say that China has all the elements of a Capitalist mode of production.

  • It is not defined by it being present even in the microscopic.

    Yeah, China does not have a 'microscopic' amount of commodity production, it is infact, dominated by commodity production.

    Answer, why do you think Marx and Engels wrong in the context of my quotations?

    They aren't in that a certain level of productive forces are required to be present before the early stages of communism (socialism) can begin. No nation state has ever reached Socialism, in fact, it is impossible for a "Nation State" to really be socialist, from Engels principles of communism:

    Will it be possible for this revolution to take place in one country alone?

    No.

    China is a bourgeoisie nation state, with a DoTB like every other nation state.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/996_working_hour_system

    This system would NOT be possible in a DoTP.

  • Socialism is a transitional status from Capitalism to Communism. There can be no immediate jump from one to the other, this jump must be gradual.

    Agreed. As in, Capitalism is also a transitional stage to Communism. China is a decidedly capitalist society, as evidenced by their production of commodities.

    Furthermore, even Communism will have an “employer-employee” relationship, insofar as it still retains labor for labor vouchers.

    There will be no "employer" class under communism. A communist society is classless. China does not use labor vouchers even, it has a system of money.

    Finally, the PRC has a Dictatorship of the Proletariat. You can’t simply assert the opposite when it’s very clear that in the PRC the State is absolute over the Bourgeoisie.

    The state is the Bourgeoisie in centrally planned economies. They extract surplus value from the Proletariat just like in a private market economy. The difference between the State Bourgeoisie and the Private Bourgeoisie, in China, is just aristocratic rank.

  • At least take a consistent stance, if you believe the PRC to not be Socialist simply because it has billionaires either you disagree with Marx or you have flawed analysis.

    The PRC is not socialist because, it produces commodities (the commodity form), Has A Dictatorship of The Bourgeoisie, The Wage System, and an employer-employee distinction.

    Which um, is in the passage you quoted:

    The essential condition for the existence, and for the sway of the bourgeois class, is the formation and augmentation of capital; the condition for capital is wage-labour.