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  • Yes, though that doesn't mean it can't be stopped. That it can be reduced in some countries is a sign we can make progress on it

    Much of the global growth is occurring in developing countries right now who often view increased meat consumption as a symbol of wealth and status (in part due to seeing it highly consumed in the west). Changing expectations and consumption in the west can have a ripple effect outward

  • To an extent, yes it would likely do that. Though on the other hand running into the maximum capacity limitations would not look pretty. Even countries that have a just bit higher grass-fed production than others have a fair number of issues (and still use plenty of supplemental grain)

    For instance, in New Zealand, they use a massive amount of synthetic fertilizer on grasslands to try to make it keep up for dairy production

    The large footprint for milk in Canterbury indicates just how far the capacity of the environment has been overshot. To maintain that level of production and have healthy water would require either 12 times more rainfall in the region or a 12-fold reduction in cows.

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    The “grass-fed” marketing line overlooks the huge amounts of fossil-fuel-derived fertiliser used to make the extra grass that supports New Zealand’s very high animal stock rates.

    https://theconversation.com/11-000-litres-of-water-to-make-one-litre-of-milk-new-questions-about-the-freshwater-impact-of-nz-dairy-farming-183806

    Or in the UK and Ireland where grass-fed production leads to deforestation and they still need additional grain on top of it

    Most of the UK and Ireland’s grass-fed cows and sheep are on land that might otherwise be temperate rainforest – arable crops tend to prefer drier conditions. However, even if there were no livestock grazing in the rainforest zone – and these areas were threatened by other crops instead – livestock would still pose an indirect threat due to their huge land footprint

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    Furthermore, most British grass-fed cows are still fed crops on top of their staple grass

    https://theconversation.com/livestock-grazing-is-preventing-the-return-of-rainforests-to-the-uk-and-ireland-198014

  • We should push for large institutional change, but don't ignore individual change either. Problem is how will you get said governments to act if people aren't also stepping up and they expect backlash to acting? The more people expect it to be cheap and highly consumed, the harder it will be for them to act. Moving people away from meat individually makes it easier. Movements that succeed usually have both individual and institutional change

    Institutional change that is achievable at the current moment is smaller. There's been some success with things like changing the defaults to be plant-based (which is good and we should continuing to push for that), but cutting subsides is going to be an uphill battle until a larger number of people change their consumption patterns

  • Unfortunately grass-fed production is no solution. It both does not scale or help reduce emissions

    We model a nationwide transition [in the US] from grain- to grass-finishing systems using demographics of present-day beef cattle. In order to produce the same quantity of beef as the present-day system, we find that a nationwide shift to exclusively grass-fed beef would require increasing the national cattle herd from 77 to 100 million cattle, an increase of 30%. We also find that the current pastureland grass resource can support only 27% of the current beef supply (27 million cattle), an amount 30% smaller than prior estimates

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    If beef consumption is not reduced and is instead satisfied by greater imports of grass-fed beef, a switch to purely grass-fed systems would likely result in higher environmental costs, including higher overall methane emissions. Thus, only reductions in beef consumption can guarantee reductions in the environmental impact of US food systems.

    https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1748-9326/aad401

  • It's fundamentally inefficient. The claims of "green" meat production are greenwashing from the industry. The industry would love for you to believe there is a way that they could clean it up. It takes growing tons of crops just for most of that energy to be lost by the creatures moving around, digesting, etc.

    Plant-based foods have a significantly smaller footprint on the environment than animal-based foods. Even the least sustainable vegetables and cereals cause less environmental harm than the lowest impact meat and dairy products [9].

    https://www.mdpi.com/2072-6643/14/8/1614/html

    Nor is something like grass-fed production a solution when that has even higher emissions due to higher rates of methane production from cows. It also is even higher land demand

    We model a nationwide transition [in the US] from grain- to grass-finishing systems using demographics of present-day beef cattle. In order to produce the same quantity of beef as the present-day system, we find that a nationwide shift to exclusively grass-fed beef would require increasing the national cattle herd from 77 to 100 million cattle, an increase of 30%. We also find that the current pastureland grass resource can support only 27% of the current beef supply (27 million cattle), an amount 30% smaller than prior estimates

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    If beef consumption is not reduced and is instead satisfied by greater imports of grass-fed beef, a switch to purely grass-fed systems would likely result in higher environmental costs, including higher overall methane emissions. Thus, only reductions in beef consumption can guarantee reductions in the environmental impact of US food systems.

    https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1748-9326/aad401

  • If the filibuster is removed, it is also possible to get through with 50+VP as tie breaker or 51. The filibuster being removed is not as unlikely as you may think since Republicans right now are getting closer and closer towards defacto removing the filibuster. There currently are narrow ways around the filibuster (reconsideration is one big one) that are supposed to have a bunch of limitations, but they are testing the waters in ignoring violations of those limitations. The senate parliamentarian is the one who makes rulings about if something violates their clauses, but their opinion can be ignored by a strict majority via the "nuclear option"

    A month ago, Republicans used the nuclear option to ignore the senate parliamentarian ruling that the Congressional Review Act would not allow them to skip the filibuster to remove California's EPA waivers (see here).

    As I write this Republicans are currently trying to play another different a different trick about some of the stuff in the Big Beautiful Bill. Dems have been challenging a bunch of provisions and getting the parliamentarian to most of the time rule they are in violation of the Byrd rule. But they are also trying to challenge the whole bill as violating the Byrd rule's limit that a bill passed via reconsecration cannot increase the deficit over a ten-year period. Republicans are playing an accounting trick to claim it doesn't. They know the parliamentarian is unlikely to agree with them, so they are currently trying to prevent dems from even being able to ask the parliamentarian about it

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  • I think you are equating those with disruptive. Peaceful doesn't necessarily mean non-disruptive. Peaceful and disruptive protests can certainly still make people in power sweat

    Strikes are peaceful and disruptive

    Shutting down freeways can be peaceful and disruptive

    Boycotts are peaceful and can be disruptive

    Sit-ins are peaceful and can be disruptive

    etc.


    Not that 3.5% is necessarily an iron-clad guarantee

  • It's far more global than people think. Here's global estimates in 2019

    We estimate that over 90% of farmed animals globally are living in factory farms at present. This includes an estimated 74% of farmed land animals (vertebrates only) and virtually all farmed fish.[1] However, there is substantial uncertainty in these figures given the land animal estimates’ heavy reliance on information from Worldwatch Institute with unclear methodology[2] and limited data on fish farming.

    https://www.sentienceinstitute.org/global-animal-farming-estimates

  • There are also Tesla protests growing in Europe (and Canada, and more)! Musk's influence threatens more than just the US, so we must all step up. The Tesla Takedown protest movement started in the US, but it's now becoming international. Here's a map of the latest ones in Europe

    Here's the site with that info along with a guide on how to plan one around you if you don't see one

    https://actionnetwork.org/event_campaigns/teslatakedown

  • There have been tons of protests and there have been some pretty widespread ones outside of Tesla this weekend. The media is just hardly covering it making them seem way smaller than they are

    Here's a map of recent Tesla Takedown protests alone

    https://actionnetwork.org/event_campaigns/teslatakedown

    Here's just a handful of photos from yesterday

    Most people within the US aren't aware these protests are happening either. There are also broader nationwide protests planned on April 5th as part of the 50501 movement. This will be the 4th nationwide 50501 protest

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  • Glad to hear my posts are going noticed. Indeed, there are lot more than you might think. I'll repost one of my long comments with details about protests here. Wrote this five days ago so mentally subtract 5 days from all the times


    They are being suppressed in media coverage, but there are people protesting. Media coverage paints a false picture that no one in the US is fighting back

    Here's one from today [meaning five days ago] with 1000 people in Boise, Idaho

    Here's a super incomplete timeline with just a handful of the nationwide protests. I'm missing a lot, I'm just showing your the photos I had from recent memory


    8 days ago there were national protest for science funding cuts. Here's the main one in DC


    11 days ago there were nationwide protests in all 50 US state capitols + DC + Many cities within those states. This was part of the 50501 movement

    Portland, Oregon

    Monroe, Wisconsin

    San Fransisco, California

    Albany, New York

    Raleigh, North Carolina

    Richmond, Virginia

    Austin, Texas

    Protests Outside Fox News in New York City


    16 days ago there were large protest in the Iowa Statehouse


    19 days ago, a protest in Cherry Hill, New Jersy outside Tesla Showroom as part of a nationwide movement protesting Telsas. There have been tons more than just this one and these happen basically every day


    21 days ago, large protests in DC for Ukraine aid


    And so on. There's a lot more going on than just this

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  • They are doing a lot of these things, the media is just barely covering it. Here's that coverage brought up higher. Could they and should they do more, absolutely and do put directed pressure them to do more, but let's not pretend they are doing nothing. That just creates defeatism instead of the energy we need to keep the pressure up


    Handful of the lawsuits that you probably didn't hear about:

    Democratic AGs win preliminary injunction against DOGE access to Treasury payment systems

    Gov. Josh Shapiro Says Over $2 Billion of Federal Funding Is Unfrozen for Pennsylvania (following PA's lawsuit)

    20 Dem AGs sue over Trump efforts to fire probationary employees

    Democratic AGs sue over cancellation of teacher grants

    More than a dozen state attorneys general file lawsuit challenging Musk and DOGE's authority

    Democratic attorneys general sue to block Trump's attempt to end birthright citizenship

    Democratic National Committee Files Lawsuit Against Trump

    And so many more. There are an insane number of lawsuits going on right now


    In delay tactics, they could do more, but they have now starting using them. It's more than zero that's for sure. Keep the pressure up here for them to do more. Call your reps to deny unanimous consent more often - it's starting to get through a bit. Here's a few examples

    Senate Democrats Hold Floor In All-Night Protest of Trump’s OMB Nominee (they held it for the maximum 30 hours)

    Scoop: Senate Dems delay Tulsi Gabbard nomination (were able to do so because of some procedural stuff with how she filed her clearance)

    Senate Democrats delay Kash Patel committee vote


    In terms of protests, they are also speaking and rallying at them with again limited coverage. Here's a few

    Democrats Protest Outside USAID Headquarters as Trump Seeks to Dismantle Agency

    Democrats and protesters rally outside treasury department to protest Elon Musk’s access to sensitive information – as it happened

    Dems protesting outside the department of education, trying to get in and denied entry

    Dems protesting outside of the EPA

    And so on

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  • Considering even industry certifications aren't always followed, I'd have to imagine ones without are even less likely to be followed. Even if they are, they're almost certainly still doing stuff like Chick culling :(


    There's also some store bought vegan mayo too that's pretty good! (Though making your own is probably cheaper if you enjoy doing that)


    If you like trying things out, I should also note there's a good number of vegan recipe communities here on Lemmy. For instance:

    [email protected]

    [email protected]

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  • Keep protesting and boycotting and it will keep going down

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